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[Aug. 4th, 2003|07:53 pm]
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Financial puzzle:

1. Merck Pharmaceuticals is worth $26.7 billion dollars, and is making money.

2. Aetna is worth $9 billion dollars, and is falling.

3. A month's supply of Zoloft costs $105, a month's supply of Zyrtec costs $119, a month's supply of Ambien costs $150, a month's supply of Priolosec costs $179.

4. HMO insurance for a husband and wife, after employer's contribution, costs $165 per month.

5. Duh.

I think I'd rather use the money to do things that make me happy, tough out the runny nose, have a beer if I can't sleep, and eat well. Most people, however, get their health insurance for free, especially once they're older. They essentially get all that stuff for free. Insurance dicks you when you're healthy, drug companies dick insurance companies when you're not. I say dick them both and play the hand you're dealt.
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[User Picture]From: nephilimnexus
2003-08-04 09:44 pm (UTC)

Darwin was right!

Amen, brother!

You wouldn't believe the pill popping flakes I have to deal with at work. Then again, you probably would ...
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2003-08-05 06:13 am (UTC)

Re: Darwin was right!

Like I said to P, I don't disagree with helping actual sick people, but I do have a problem with them needing help. Why the hell does it cost $150/mo to sleep, when half a glass of wine, some excersize, or even some warm milk costs practically nothing? That's why a broken arm costs $20,000 if you don't have insurance. I can do without medical coverage as it stands, but there's a few things I'd have looked at if it were free for me to do so. I'm not talking about "my eyes water sometimes when I go outside, I need powerful allergy medicine in order to function properly", or pumping your average angsty teen full of Prozac and Zoloft until they're extras for Full House. I'm talking about actual physical ailment (like I need to get an errant tooth pulled). As it stands, I have two choices. Get dicked by insurance with a monthly bill that's essentially a loan with huge interest for the $1000 it might take to pay the dentist, or come up with the money myself. Once P moves in, I'm going to need to get insurance, because she has viable health concerns. Still, I imagine that even then I'll pay more to the insurance company than all the doctor's bills we accrue, I plan to add it up after the first year. If insurance companies didn't have to pay out the ass for the depression/allergy/insomnia/heartburn equivalent of Tylenol, I wouldn't be in a financial situation like this, but I guess this how the free market turned out. I wonder how Canada does it with government healthcare...
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[User Picture]From: recovry
2003-08-05 08:12 am (UTC)

Re: Darwin was right!

only in America could we have a disease industry that profits and thrives on other people's misery. The only reason I would ever move to Canada is because healthcare is a lawful right there.
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[User Picture]From: nephilimnexus
2003-08-05 10:29 am (UTC)
Canada? Oh that's easy. Less government corruption. Before you laugh remember that we, as Americans, are heavily conditioned to assume that all politicians are 100% corrupt because of what we deal with everyday. This does not prove that there could be less corruption elsewhere.

Thus they get more back for their tax dollar. And they have stricter health codes, especially with drugs, so they can go handing out Happy Pills straight off the drawing board to people. Over here, doctors working for Rx companies basically use their patients as lab rats, and if something sell enough (read: addictive), the Rx company can "donate" enough money to the FDA to get damn near anything approved (example: Zoloft, which has been proven to be not only addictive but a wonderful way to cause panic attacks).
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2003-08-05 11:38 am (UTC)
Think about it like this, though: they have roughly 150-250% the taxes we do, and their economy is weaker and essentially dependant on our own. They still have their corruption (like hauling all their trash 4 hours away across the US border to dump, then refusing to pick up the trash while it rots in the streets when we make them stop), but they also have more thrall over their citizens. They can essentially be less corrupt while maintaining a similar amount of power. They can afford to be honest because they're sucking up half their economy through taxes. Government as MegaCorp, if you ask me. Kind of like how most big companies set up a cafeteria in their larger offices. Suck the money they put out right back in. I just paid $6.50 for a thin, steam-cooked reuben on Wonderbread with what tasted like reused cole slaw marinated in vinegar, and 4 onion rings.
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[User Picture]From: nephilimnexus
2003-08-05 05:20 pm (UTC)
Possibly, but at least people are getting something for their tax dollar. I pay tax dollars to pay the wages of cops who like to stick parking tickets on my car when it's in my own fucking driveway and shoot me if I protest.

Remember the Old Soviet Union? Free health care, free day care, free college ... and they paid less taxes than we do! Quality wasn't that great, but hey - it was free.
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2003-08-05 07:00 pm (UTC)
So do they, only they pay them more. C'mon, the cops in Canada suck just as much, I've read stories about them beating someone outside of a club. I do like that they have a substantial minimum wage that helps cut down on welfare, though.

They still paid. It cost the people their freedom, and it cost the nation it's soverignty. It was kind of like that Biosphere experiment in reverse. The theory stands, but the experiment failed.

On to the idea of getting everything for "free", because the government does everyone's budgeting for them. Yeah, that would be great if some oil executive sent a whole tenement to college, but you can't polish a turd. There are good people who fall victim to their circumstance, but there are also bad people who don't deserve a chance handed to them on a silver platter that they will promptly throw away. I know examples of both. I'm technically a rich boy, but I'm making my own way, because that's what I believe in. If I took what I had and used it to acquire power and influence, I'd be a monster. That's what happens to people in situations where they're given a free ride through everything. We're not built for it.
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[User Picture]From: nephilimnexus
2003-08-05 09:25 pm (UTC)
I miss Ancient Rome
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2003-08-06 06:01 am (UTC)
Despite the nutless, pre-teen buttsex, ancient rome was pretty cool. The testbed for modern civilization.
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[User Picture]From: nephilimnexus
2003-08-06 07:25 pm (UTC)
Hey, no one is perfect

=)
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