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[Jun. 29th, 2005|03:00 pm]
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ATTENTION MURICATED.NET USERS:

My contract with Zettai is up in mid-July, and I'd really rather not stay with them after all the trouble we've had. I'm currently looking at 3SHost, which appears to offer everything Zettai does for a lot cheaper, and without the hassle. Your email address would remain the same, but the webmail interface may change slightly (not certain if they use Squirrelmail). The big thing is that your folders would not be migrated unless you did so yourself. Without resetting your passwords, logging in as you, and manually forwarding each mail to the new host, I wouldn't be able to do it myself. Would you be OK with that? If there's anything in your accounts that you'd like to keep, make sure to archive it using your mail client (many do so automatically anyway, all do if you use POP3). That way, you can keep it on your local machine, and forward it to yourself if you need access to it through webmail. I can stay with Zettai if need be, but some of you will remember how uselessly slow the webmail server was, and how we're still getting a bunch of false positives from the spam filter.
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[User Picture]From: witchchild
2005-06-29 07:11 pm (UTC)
Your tech talk, while awesome, confuses the hel out of me. *laughs*

Does this mean I should download what I have in there pre-move?
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2005-06-29 07:42 pm (UTC)
Yes, archive what you've got to your local computer.
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[User Picture]From: c0nsumer
2005-06-29 07:12 pm (UTC)
Just FYI, you can install SquirrelMail yourself. It's trivial to do so...
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2005-06-29 07:42 pm (UTC)
Yes, but then I'd have to get a colo contract. If I buy a simple shared hosting contract, I get multiple OC12s and a dedicated sysadmin who runs mailservers for a living. Just getting the kind of bandwidth you get with a shared contract is expensive as hell to colo.
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[User Picture]From: c0nsumer
2005-06-29 07:46 pm (UTC)
No, no you don't.

SquirrelMail is just a PHP-based IMAP client. Anyone can install/run it without doing anything special. Hell, you could run a copy at home which is pointing to an IMAP server in Japan.

I've done just such a thing to set up SquirrelMail for a friend who wanted to use it, but who's ISP didn't support it.
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2005-06-29 07:49 pm (UTC)
Ohhh, I didn't know that. I'm web-dumb for the most part, I stopped paying attention after HTML stopped being a standard and everyone went Perl/ASP/XML/BLT. So, in essence, there's nothing to install as it's just a directory full of .php files. All I have to do is edit a config file and stick it in there, then the users just point their browsers at login.php and off they go?
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[User Picture]From: c0nsumer
2005-06-29 07:54 pm (UTC)
Pretty much, yeah. Except there's an index.php which points them to the login. And there's a perl script which gives you a menu-driven config.
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2005-06-29 07:56 pm (UTC)
Neat. You don't happen to have any bright ideas for migrating peoples IMAP accounts, do you?
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[User Picture]From: c0nsumer
2005-06-29 08:01 pm (UTC)
What formats are the mailboxes in? If it's the same on both end, just copy either the maildirs or the mbox files.
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2005-06-29 08:15 pm (UTC)
That's the thing, shared mailserver on both ends, don't have rights to the backend filesystem.
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[User Picture]From: c0nsumer
2005-06-29 08:30 pm (UTC)
You can't ssh into the box and get to the mail directories?

If not, I'd call both of the ISPs and see what's up and what you have to do to get access.
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2005-06-29 08:38 pm (UTC)
Nope, unless both ISPs will play nice and transfer the mbox files I'm boned.
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[User Picture]From: c0nsumer
2005-06-29 10:48 pm (UTC)
Ask the one to send them to you. Then ask the other to import them. That's if it's mbox...

Or, move them using a mail client.
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[User Picture]From: angelopercieval
2005-06-29 08:01 pm (UTC)
Dude, I haven't smoked enough crack today to understand anything that you just said... somehow I doubt it has anything to do with me.
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[User Picture]From: arcsine
2005-06-29 08:15 pm (UTC)
Nope, you don't have an account on my webmail server. Unless you want one, that is.
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